星期五, 12月 16, 2011

有衝突嗎?

立論1: 陳偉殷,左手先發,26歲以前就可以用low-90的快速球丟進好球帶,有一個above-average的滑球。全美國也找不出幾個這樣的投手。

立論2:陳偉殷適應良好並且沒有傷病問題的話,可望在美國站穩後段輪值,如果持續進步,可能有機會變成2、3號投手。

有衝突嗎?

這大概跟當初Chrystal Ball預測王建民生涯百勝時鄉民哇哇叫得認為這個系統瞧不起王一樣吧,先搞懂能在MLB站穩輪值的都是些什麼角色吧-_-

王建民當初可以用世界獨一無二的伸卡球丟整場,丟出來的成績其實是個相當不錯的中段輪值投手。是的,世界獨一無二非常了不起,但是能在大聯盟當Ace的不僅僅是這樣而已。

會以為這樣叫做過度吹捧的人,大概誤以為光憑立論1的條件就要期待陳偉殷殺翻大聯盟了吧?

說這樣叫過度吹捧的同一個人還曾經認為陳偉殷去美國的薪水會比日本低,他大概忘了日職養出來的投手,能在美國站穩輪值的至今一隻手就數得完了。也就是說絕大多數的日本王牌,根本站不上美國人的輪值,那麼被期待能站上輪值的陳偉殷拿得薪水會比在日本時高還低呢?

當我們說日本職棒的水準非常高的時候,這些人並沒有理解這一點跟日美之間的鴻溝依然極大沒有衝突。健康的松坂大輔有美職王牌的身手,健康的達比修有有美職王牌的身手,能養出這些選手日職的水準已經不言可喻。但是當我們說像陳偉殷這樣的選手極為優秀時,並不暗示他去美國可以殺翻天。

但是誤以為不能殺翻天的陳偉殷問題一大堆、或者根本不優秀,那根本是沒有搞清楚能在美職站先發的投手是什麼等極了。

4 Comments:

Blogger QQQ said...

雖然我也認為陳能吃美國職棒這口飯

但我認為格主對陳偉殷實在有點誤解

他的raw stuff實在沒你立論1裡那麼好

low-90s+55-60分滑球在左投sp已經很強力了

但遺憾的是陳兩樣都沒有...

之前在PTT看過有人算過陳生涯年均速是90.5

之後就沒更快過

而滑球...有平均就算不錯了

所以立論2認為他能站穩輪值機會當然是有

但也不是那麼鐵板釘釘的高

總之以他年紀陳還是很不錯

畢竟有控球的年輕左投又有中偏上的stuff

但你對他的看法實在有下修的空間

2:53 上午  
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Anonymous audreyt said...

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讀原文啦 智障同學!!
Manifestations

There are many observable physical phenomena that arise in interactions involving virtual particles. For bosonic particles that exhibit rest mass when they are free and actual, virtual interactions are characterized by the relatively short range of the force interaction produced by particle exchange. Confinement can lead to a short range, too. Examples of such short-range interactions are the strong and weak forces, and their associated field bosons.

For the gravitational and electromagnetic forces, the zero rest-mass of the associated boson particle permits long-range forces to be mediated by virtual particles. However, in the case of photons, power and information transfer by virtual particles is a relatively short-range phenomenon (existing only within a few wavelengths of the field-disturbance, which carries information or transferred power), as for example seen in the characteristically short range of inductive and capacitative effects in the near field zone of coils and antennas.

Some field interactions which may be seen in terms of virtual particles are:

The Coulomb force (static electric force) between electric charges. It is caused by the exchange of virtual photons. In symmetric 3-dimensional space this exchange results in the inverse square law for electric force. Since the photon has no mass, the coulomb potential has an infinite range.
The magnetic field between magnetic dipoles. It is caused by the exchange of virtual photons. In symmetric 3-dimensional space, this exchange results in the inverse cube law for magnetic force. Since the photon has no mass, the magnetic potential has an infinite range.

10:16 上午  
Anonymous audreyt said...

Electromagnetic induction. This phenomenon transfers energy to and from a magnetic coil via a changing (electro)magnetic field.
The strong nuclear force between quarks is the result of interaction of virtual gluons. The residual of this force outside of quark triplets (neutron and proton) holds neutrons and protons together in nuclei, and is due to virtual mesons such as the pi meson and rho meson.
The weak nuclear force is the result of exchange by virtual W and Z bosons.
The spontaneous emission of a photon during the decay of an excited atom or excited nucleus; such a decay is prohibited by ordinary quantum mechanics and requires the quantization of the electromagnetic field for its explanation.
The Casimir effect, where the ground state of the quantized electromagnetic field causes attraction between a pair of electrically neutral metal plates.
The van der Waals force, which is partly due to the Casimir effect between two atoms.
Vacuum polarization, which involves pair production or the decay of the vacuum, which is the spontaneous production of particle-antiparticle pairs (such as electron-positron).
Lamb shift of positions of atomic levels.
The Impedance of free space, which defines the ratio between the electric field strength |E| and the magnetic field strength |H |: Z0 = | E|⁄|H|.[8]
Much of the so-called near-field of radio antennas, where the magnetic and electric effects of the changing current in the antenna wire and the charge effects of the wire's capacitive charge may be (and usually are) important contributors to the total EM field close to the source, but both of which effects are dipole effects that decay with increasing distance from the antenna much more quickly than do the influence of "conventional" electromagnetic waves that are "far" from the source.[a] These far-field waves, for which E is (in the limit of long distance) equal to cB, are composed of actual photons. Actual and virtual photons are mixed near an antenna, with the virtual photons responsible only for the "extra" magnetic-inductive and transient electric-dipole effects, which cause any imbalance between E and cB. As distance from the antenna grows, the near-field effects (as dipole fields) die out more quickly, and only the "radiative" effects that are due to actual photons remain as important effects. Although virtual effects extend to infinity, they drop off in field strength as 1⁄r2 rather than the field of EM waves composed of actual photons, which drop 1⁄r.[b][c]

Most of these have analogous effects in solid-state physics; indeed, one can often gain a better intuitive understanding by examining these cases. In semiconductors, the roles of electrons, positrons and photons in field theory are replaced by electrons in the conduction band, holes in the valence band, and phonons or vibrations of the crystal lattice. A virtual particle is in a virtual state where the probability amplitude is not conserved. Examples of macroscopic virtual phonons, photons, and electrons in the case of the tunneling process were presented by Günter Nimtz[9] and Alfons A. Stahlhofen.[10]

10:20 上午  

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